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#12088 - 15/01/18 12:04 PM Re: EDI Replacement ***** [Re: Bagpuss]  
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Originally Posted by Bagpuss
Originally Posted by delboy
Originally Posted by Bagpuss
We require to carry on sending/receiving files via third-party client software. We've already started testing this in terms of the XML files Oracle Payroll was already able to generate from the outbound RTI processes.

Prior to this set of patches, has anyone successfully processed XML format inbound files from HMRC and, if so, did it require some additional configuration? Unlike the outbound files, the initial test failed (I'll find out more soon) so I was just interested if anyone had already gone down the XML route for the files they were receiving from HMRC and the steps taken?

From reading through the Read Me, a large proportion of the EDI abolition patch content appears to be the B2B functionality which we do not initially intend to use.


So, are you sending XML files via your current third-party client software. What software do you use as we may have to purchase something new?


Apologies for delay in replying - three weeks off and forgot all about this post (and pretty much everything else!).

We currently send and receive in EDI format. We already upgraded our client software to get XML tested and tried an outbound file from Oracle Payroll in XML (prior to the decommissioning patches) and it passed the HMRC test successfully.

However, I was just curious why our operations team weren't able to upload the inbound XML files into Oracle Payroll as easily. Prior to diving in, I was just interested if anyone has already started using inbound XML files (prior to Oracle adding B2B and removing EDI formats).

Anyway, the patches will change things again so it's only my curiosity. We use AVCO Systems' software and, so far, it all seems to be working nicely - we'll test the inbound XML files once we've applied the Oracle patches and configuration.

So far, so good...


We've also been using AVCO with EDI for some time now and I've just recently found out that for several months they have been converting our EDI file to XML for onward transmission. If I've read you post correctly it's good to know that their software appears to be working without doing the EDI conversion.
I've also been testing the Oracle B2B functionality for which I have an SR outstanding. Like you I was able to transmit a test file to HMRC. However receiving a file is done (in the background) in 2 steps:

Step 1. Establish a handshake with HMRC - we eventually got this working by setting the profile "Applications Proxy Bypass Domains" to *.<company>.co.uk as a starting point.
Step 2. Request the file - the request from the Oracle system to HMRC isn't finding it's way to our proxy server - hence the SR.

Hopefully we'll get a solution provided soon .

#12089 - 16/01/18 06:33 AM Re: EDI Replacement [Re: pat]  
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Originally Posted by pat


We've also been using AVCO with EDI for some time now and I've just recently found out that for several months they have been converting our EDI file to XML for onward transmission. If I've read you post correctly it's good to know that their software appears to be working without doing the EDI conversion.
I've also been testing the Oracle B2B functionality for which I have an SR outstanding. Like you I was able to transmit a test file to HMRC. However receiving a file is done (in the background) in 2 steps:

Step 1. Establish a handshake with HMRC - we eventually got this working by setting the profile "Applications Proxy Bypass Domains" to *.<company>.co.uk as a starting point.
Step 2. Request the file - the request from the Oracle system to HMRC isn't finding it's way to our proxy server - hence the SR.

Hopefully we'll get a solution provided soon .


We certainly won't be using the B2B solution in the short term but a stand alone PC with the software loaded. My gut feeling is it will be AVCO. A few of you guys seem to be using it successfully so I'm sure it will all go smoothly, he says with hesitant confidence!!

#12092 - 22/01/18 01:49 PM Re: EDI Replacement [Re: PaulD]  
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Hi All,

For those who are interested...

HMRC confirmed this with regards to testing:

• Can only test sending data to HMRC. There is no facility to test collecting messages from the HMRC.
• Need to send using LIVE Government Gateway username and password (not test credentials), but must ensure the ‘Test’ flag is switched on when sending test data to HMRC
• In return, should receive a successful response from the Government Gateway (or an error is there’s a problem).
• Suggestion is to send a few files from the test environment then promote the patches to production and send some test file from there.

We are using the B2B solution.

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