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#5711 - 25/08/10 07:48 PM Re: Basic Setup for CORE HR without Payroll [Re: EBS_USER]
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Originally Posted By: EBS_USER
... element entries screen, and only way to access element entries screen is to attach a payroll to employee assignment.


Hi,

Just want to be sure I understand the above. Are you saying that without a Payroll on the Assignment, the Element Entries form doesn't open?

If that's the case, I find this odd, and it isn't my understanding of the functionality. As I generally implement Payroll, it's been a while since I have seen an assignment without a Payroll. I'll have to test your scenario to understand what's happening.

What is your setting for the profile option "HR:User Type"? Please check at the lowest level at which it's set.

Regards,

Peter

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#5712 - 25/08/10 10:02 PM Re: Basic Setup for CORE HR without Payroll [Re: PeterP]
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@SBi.. Thanks.. I will look up the document but what I am coming to understand is that it's got to be a fast formula to assign custom numbering.

@Peter - Thanks once again. I have been in same scenario as you, always worked on complete HR/Payroll implementations so always had a payroll setup. This time it is only HR so I am going through lot of R&D.

Profile setting for 'HR: User Type' is 'HR with Payroll User'.

Please let me know the outcome of your test.


Thanks.

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#5716 - 26/08/10 07:44 AM Re: Basic Setup for CORE HR without Payroll [Re: EBS_USER]
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I might have misunderstood what was being seen here, but I do know that a warning window pops up if the assignment has no payroll - this will not necessarily prevent you going to the element entry screen, but it will restrict what you can do once you're there. No non-recurring elements will be enterable, neither will any recurring elements that have any payroll-related link criteria (either a specific payroll, or 'Linked to all Payrolls' flag set)
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#5717 - 26/08/10 12:18 PM Re: Basic Setup for CORE HR without Payroll [Re: CT]
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I concur CT.

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#5720 - 26/08/10 12:30 PM Re: Basic Setup for CORE HR without Payroll [Re: delboy]
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To be honest. There is nothing to stop you actually setting up a "dummy" payroll and calendar etc, even if you have no intention of processing payrolls.

I seem to recal us doing just such a thing at several HR-only implementations many moons ago.
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#5721 - 27/08/10 01:19 AM Re: Basic Setup for CORE HR without Payroll [Re: bcooper]
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bcooper,CT,delboy,PeterP.. everyone thanks a lots for youre reply. Mystery is finally solved and I concur with creating a dummy payroll for attaching accrual plans and salary element.

I haven't explored CWB yet and I have never worked with CWB before so lets see maybe it will hold some secrets.. :-)

For my second question, is there any place in HRMS or profiles to enter a first number for automatic employee generation? My client wants employee number to start from 10001.

So far I haven't seen any system configuration that allows us to setup the beginning employee number.

Any ideas guys??

Thanks.

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#5722 - 27/08/10 06:35 AM Re: Basic Setup for CORE HR without Payroll [Re: EBS_USER]
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Answer is in CT's reply.

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#5723 - 27/08/10 07:08 AM Re: Basic Setup for CORE HR without Payroll [Re: EBS_USER]
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Originally Posted By: EBS_USER

For my second question, is there any place in HRMS or profiles to enter a first number for automatic employee generation? My client wants employee number to start from 10001.

So far I haven't seen any system configuration that allows us to setup the beginning employee number.

To further clarify Mr SBi's comment, my answer to this can be found on page 1 of this thread.
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#5766 - 06/09/10 11:17 PM Re: Basic Setup for CORE HR without Payroll [Re: CT]
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Thanks to everyone. Evry piece of infromation was helpful.

Cheers.

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